Destinations and Destines – Rowing Your Boat: June’s Capricorn Partial
Lunar Eclipse
Wherever you are in the world, this eclipse is set to have some
interesting, intense and profound energies flowing from it. This is
because this full Moon is conjunct Pluto,—
The effects of eclipses stretch on for months, and, if you experience
a major event on any level; physically, mentally, spiritually or
emotionally, effects can stretch on through the coming months and
years. This is a time of crossroads, decisions and change.
The Sabian Symbol for the lunar eclipse and Pluto is Capricorn 5:
Indians – Some Rowing A Canoe While Others Are Dancing A War Dance.
This degree speaks of people working together in a communal effort to
do something or to get somewhere. The fact that some are “Dancing A
War Dance” may be the reason some are “Rowing A Canoe” in the first
place. With this degree emphasized, some people will be getting on
with their lives while others are wanting to make a show of things,
perhaps preferring to whip up responses, cause problems or perhaps
want others to stop and consider what’s really going on.
The Karmic Condition of the Moon and Pluto is also a challenging
degree. It’s Cancer 4: A Cat Arguing With A Mouse.
This degree can show a strain on one’s nerves and sense of peace.
Finding a quite space with friends who care and ensuring your safety,
peace and quiet helps to ameliorate any situations that may pop up.
The Sabian Symbol for the Sun is very telling and, also, a little
foreboding. It’s Cancer 5: At A Railroad Crossing, An Automobile Is
Wrecked By A Train . This degree is always opposite – meaning
these themes are always tied together – Capricorn 5: Indians – Some
Rowing A Canoe While Others Are Dancing A War Dance. This speaks of
being aware of going against the grain with people, when you’re
running counter to their intentions, desires or needs, getting in your
way, being aggressive, not listening, pushing their own agenda at the
expense of yours, going off the rails, valuing possessions before
people, talking so that no one gets a word in, emotional panic,
spinning out of control. There’s got to be a good side to this Sabian
Symbol; it can
show being the one who takes on the ‘big boys’ of business, gets in
the way, makes a noise to attract attention, refusing to just sit down
and take whatever is dished up. The only way ‘the car’ can be ‘wrecked
by a train’ is if the ‘car’ gets in the way of the ‘train’.
This is obviously going to be a big full Moon (a partial eclipse to
boot), and one in which many things will be transformed. The trick is
to be kind to yourself and others at this most meaningful time.
http://sabiansymbols.typepad.com/
120. Vermont calling Says:
June 26th, 2010 at 2:45 pm e
DBLA, Try and listen to the audio I posted by Gore’s accuser, Id love your comments on it,especially your humorous ones that I so love!!
Regarding Cheney, he could have other health issues going on besides his heart problems.
Check out these photos of him in June 2009 and Feb 2010, I see a difference in his facial appearance in the Feb. ones, face is somewhat shrunken in,lost weight? has aged a lot within the 6 months…
or maybe just bad photos, he’s had heart issues for years and it eventually has to take it’s toll on his other organs and systems.
121. Vermont calling Says:
June 26th, 2010 at 2:45 pm e
http://www.zimbio.com/Dick+Cheney/pictures/pro
122. Vermont calling Says:
June 26th, 2010 at 3:15 pm e
Asian animation video of Gore’s massage, funny
http://www.breitbart.tv/animation-of-al-gores-massage-encounter/
123. DBLAries Says:
June 26th, 2010 at 3:52 pm e
Vermont,
I will listen in a minute—
I cannot judge Cheney, he has always been ugly—-fat/skinny? whatever! He probably looks more sallow now—
More suppression of the press–by the “big guns” !
Patrick Wood: The Trilateral Commission and BP
This week’s edition answers the question, “Why is there a media blackout on the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtmMHlWvHEw
124. DBLAries Says:
June 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm e
More V.P imformation. Looks like Clinton is enjoying himself.!
Cheney is really a “wimp”–he travels with an ambulance in-tow–everywhere he goes….VP–6 months S.S. protection…
President Barack Obama authorizes extended Secret Service guard for
former VP Dick Cheney—July 21st 2009
Normally, ex-veeps only get six months of protection at taxpayer
expense. But Cheney asked for an extension, and President Obama -
whom Cheney has excoriated in several interviews since leaving office
– recently signed off.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/07/21/2009-07-21_cheney_keeps_protection_thanks_to_uncle_sam_bam.html#ixzz0s04R9Nul
Bill Clinton & Team USA Celebrate Win With Booze (PHOTO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/25/bill-clinton-team-usa-cel_n_625137.html
125. DBLAries Says:
June 26th, 2010 at 5:40 pm e
Vermont calling,
I listened to 10 minutes of it. She sounded too scripted !
If she habits other hotels ! she has the risk of trouble all the time. She constantly puts herself in precarious situations. She could have left immediately. Meeting, a man in a hotel room at 11:00 pm, is absolutely inappropriate for a real professional masseuse. Top rate Hotels have a staff masseuse/. The hotel cannot risk being sued either.
Although, Oregon seems progressive, it has a lot of redneck conservatives there. Oregon is an Aquarian State… It easily, could be a smear to discredit Gore. I do not find her creditable. Sounds like something the NRA would think of doing..
I have had travel difficulties in Oregon too. wow, I cannot believe how many states, I do not like to travel through> AZ politics, is turning out to be unpleasant. But, as long as I stay away from Phoenix, it is great here…and other cities, I visit here, are very pleasant too. McCain and Kyl spend most of their time in Phoenix, and make it very divisive, and caustic….
Vermont—thank you for the interview, it is very interesting but, I think the woman was just looking for money..
126. Helena Says:
June 26th, 2010 at 11:40 pm e
Vermont @114,
I read her statement. I commented earlier that going to a man’s hotel room at 11:00 p.m. is poor judgment. Generally you can scope the situation on the phone with a prospective client before making the appointment. Things don’t seem to add up. An experienced massage therapist is aware of the risks, unfortunately it comes with the territory, but you do what’s necessary to protect yourself. I don’t understand why she put herself in this situation in the first place. She said she was shocked at his making sexual overtures. As a professional massage therapist, I find this hard to believe, especially under the circumstances. Evidently, this ordeal went on for two hours! Hard to know why it took her so long to get out of there. Maybe we can take what she said at face value, that she got in over her head and didn’t know how to handle the situation or was intimidated. Anyway, I’m skeptical.
btw, Gore used another name, I’m not sure he registered under an assumed name, or used it to schedule the massage.
Another thing. In general, a public figure having Pluto in Leo in a conspicuous place like the first or the 10th house, will not get away with sexual indiscretions, and will not be able to keep these secret. Pluto of course relates to sex, and Leo equates with the limelight, it’s ruler being the Sun, and sunlight means exposure…
127. Helena Says:
June 26th, 2010 at 11:46 pm e
James,
Thanks for your comments on the Afghan war chart. One thing, I don’t think it’s so much a matter of lack of clarity as lack of stones to pull the plug.
128. Helena Says:
June 27th, 2010 at 1:16 am e
Obama: Hostage to Petraeus
“I have given my opinion that after the December policy review on Afghanistan, President Obama will change his policy on Afghanistan. I think Sullivan is right. Obama is stubborn and will decide to back Petraeus “play.” So, the policy change is likely to be a relaxation of the July, 2011 date.” Pat Lang
December is when the policy review is expected to take place. Pat Lang’s prediction fits the Jupiter Uranus transit in both the War Chart’s 10th house, and the Solar Return Chart for December.
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2010/06/obama-hostage-to-petraeus-andrew-sullivan.html
Today’s Chart
http://www.astrologysoftware.com/today/chart.asp?orig
from http://www.cosmicpath.com
# Moon in Capricorn: All day
# Void of Course Moon: No
# PLUTO IS RETROGRADE
# NEPTUNE IS RETROGRADE
# CHIRON IS RETROGRADE
# MERCURY IS OUT OF BOUNDS
We are in the 2 week wormhole that is the fabric of the two eclipses that are currently affecting our atmosphere, one that occurred yesterday morning and the total solar eclipse that will take place on July 11th. These two weeks are as powerful as any passage in history, and we have seen some amazing ones in the past decade, haven’t we? The partial lunar eclipse that happened yesterday morning involved Pluto, Mercury, Jupiter and Uranus. These planets are all involved in a major cardinal grand cross that will grace our skies all summer long. Saturn is also a part of this picture, but the Great Teacher is not quite finishes teaching us to master our Selves before he gets involved in this major new chapter (in a few weeks). We are in for the ride of our lives. Seat belts and harnesses fastened, please.
from http://www.stariq.com
The cautious Capricorn Moon prefers that we devalue our feelings, but our subjectivity is strong today as mental Mercury in moody Cancer opposes passionate Pluto. Meanwhile, a tense aspect between romantic Venus and electric Uranus prevents us from becoming too emotionally detached. Ultimately, it’s tough to get comfortable now because an uneasy quincunx between authoritative Saturn and confusing Neptune keeps us guessing about what is real.
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ADMIN….
How did we get this country is such a mess? How did we allow it ? For starters—GW Bush was re-elected in 2004. There is not a day that goes by, that we are not reminded of 911—–the whole pretext of all the disasterous moves we make ! We need another investigation !
Moved the last posts too–
All wonderful sharing of Ideas—————–
I am beginning to believe that Joe Lieberman is one that is leading us “off a cliff” ! We are close to S American/politics now…Chavez/Castro–here we come—–
Dozens of Americans believed to have joined terrorists
Threat called ‘worrisome’
Dozens of Americans have joined terrorist groups and are posing a
threat to the United States and its interests abroad, the president’s
most senior adviser on counterterrorism and homeland security said
Thursday.
The American Civil Liberties Union in a letter to Mr. Obama on April
28 warned that the current program to kill terrorists in foreign
countries would create a precedent for other countries to kill
suspected terrorists all over the world.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/24/dozens-from-us-on-list-of-targets-as-terrorists/
Obama Internet kill switch plan approved by US Senate
President could get power to turn off Internet
Senator Joe Lieberman =====
http://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch-plan-approved-by-us-senate/
If we continue, with our “hubris”, more and more countries will be against us ! Got to back to the drawing board. We are “war weary” !
Venezuela
Chavez meets with Syria’s Assad in Venezuela
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez met with
Syrian President Bashar Assad on Saturday and called on Latin America
and the Arab world to fight what he called America’s imperialist and
capitalist interests abroad.
The two leaders signed an agreement to create a $100 million trade and
development fund.
–http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Chavez-meets-with-Syria-s-Assad-in-Venezuela-538538.php
Let’s try this—
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Chavez-meets-with-Syria-s-Assad-in-Venezuela-538538.php
HUmm! time to send Israel more aid ???
Number of millionaires in Israel grows by 42%
Israel home to 8,419 millionaires according to Merrill Lynch Capgemini
World Wealth Report
The number of millionaires in Israel increased last year by 42.7%,
from 5,900 in 2008 to 8,419 in 2009, according to the 14th Merrill
Lynch Capgemini World Wealth Report released Tuesday.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3909178,00.html
CHENEY UPDATE: ‘Former Vice President Cheney was admitted to George
Washington University Hospital [Friday] and was not feeling well. This
was the result of a progressive retention of fluid related to his
coronary artery disease. After receiving IV medication, the former
Vice President is markedly improved. His physicians plan to discharge
him in a day or so.’
from Mike Allen’s Politico
-AP’s Tom Raum and Jane Wardell: ‘Obama invited [Chinese President]
Hu [Jintao] to Washington for a formal state visit — one of the
most-coveted diplomatic invitations. Hu accepted, and White House
officials said the two nations will work out a date. It would be the
third state dinner of Obama’s presidency, following ones for India and
Mexico.’
from Mike Allen’s Politico————————–
‘Special relationship’ under strain as Obama and Cameron meet
Tension between the U.S. and Britain over BP has mounted as the
company has become more of a target with every failed effort to stop
the oil gushing from its Deepwater Horizon drilling rig.
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=726F2919-18FE-70B2-A8996F685DE13804
Great we dug up Alan Simpson again… We get to see the mistakes of our past !! again————-
“Let Them Eat Cat Food” Commissioner Simpson Has It Butt Backwards
So the question is a bit simpler. Is Cranky Mc Snakeoil saying that he
has no problem paying Goldman Sachs 100¢ on the dollar or the Pete
Peterson Fund or the Bank of China if they want to cash in their
bonds, but he has a huge problem if the “lesser” aka middle class
wants their money?
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/56631
or –we are up the creek–without a paddle ??
Dodd Frank Financial Reform Legislation– Watered Down, Diluted,
Loaded with Loopholes– The Obama/ Democratic Congress
We’ve been stabbed in the back again.
We’re screwed again. Obama and the democratic congress did it again– created
legislation that is labeled reform, but is so diluted it is worthless
and won’t prevent another financial meltdown.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Dodd-Frank-Financial-Refor-by-Rob-Kall-100627-674.html
Bank stocks soar on financial regulation agreement
Bank stocks shot higher Friday after an agreement on a financial regulation bill reassured investors that new rules won’t devastate financial companies’ profits.
http://www.opednews.com/populum/linkframe.php?linkid=114226
i’m back!!!! don’t know where rc disappeared to though, lol
i was out of town for a couple of days and saw this couple playing down in victoria
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128065225
sabian symbols are fascinating.. they seem like little windows into a particular insight if one is fluid and dreamy.. our dog has moon at 4 1/2 cancer and this was more of an emotional one for her for sure… she doesn’t like going down to victoria as in the past she was left their for a few weeks and is a real home body with strong attachments!!! she survived this time.. she was with me most of the time..
helena, this is from a post of yours on the other thread that i’d like to comment on. “Well, it seems to me writings which continue to be read after thousands of years have some importance.”
i agree! they often have way too much importance and it is not so much the writing as it is the one’s doing the reading… i got a chance to read the book i mentioned i had ordered – the invention of the jewish people and in it is a section call the old testament as myth/history that i look forward to reading… but if you think of the idea that this land israel was given to the chosen people, you get the idea of how powerful ideas in an old book can have in the present day… whether these ideas have anything to do with the reality from a few thousand years ago is a very different matter…
it’s partly in the interpretations where the conflicts arise but even more so with those who appear incapable of recognizing how they’ve taken a statement and turned it into something very different then what the intent was… understanding intent through the translation out of a different language from a different era is also only a small part of the dynamics that have to be worked thru… imagination works better in some then others.. here is the sabian symbol for where my sun is- ” 9-10 deg Aries “A Teacher Gives New Symbolic Forms To Traditional Images”
i remember reading that many years ago and liking it..i have always been fascinated with symbolism, which is what astrology is in a nutshell.. the nature of symbolism is something lost on many.. this of course is one of my many opinions which some may or may not share.. many don’t know when they’re reading something symbolic which is what the bible is… they have no clue how to understand it either.. that is my 5 cents!! it is not so much the old literature but what folks today do with it.. thanks for continuing on with this..
i have given up predicting when cheney will kick the bucket.. like many i had hoped he would have been removed from power much sooner then he had, but alas he has managed to hang in their.. his mars in zealous sag is in good company with mccrystal, and petreaus doesn’t express the same type of zealotry for his likes i am sure…
as for financial reform and the usa chart venus – would be nice, but the bankers are still calling the shots… i think we have to wait til pluto at pluto for a complete overturning of control here, and by then the usa will not exist the way we know it now..
solar returns to sibley charts – i don’t know how much merit one can put in these as the views are strongly divided on the ”correct”chart to use with the usa.. i think i have at least 5 to choose from in my collection.. i like the gemini rising one which is possibly the 2nd most popular after the sag rising..
Hi DBLA, The Topic ” rowing up Hill ” Brings to my Mind Our POTUS and The Premier Putin,…
I would Like To Show You An Example of an Act Caught on Film that “Truely Defines
a Persons character . The Tale is of The Fly Swat of Obama.
This Fly, not any ordinary fly mind you, was sent on a mission to meet Obama.
This Entity , the fly in this case knew It had only two outcomes of this Journey.
What was Expected To Happen,, Is the fly , upon landing gently on the Hand was
to be Safely escorted to the nearest window and set free to carry on its travels////
But The Latter, we all know Happened , he was crushed………………
NOW Putin ,, upon seeing this,, Knew Immediatly That Obama Had Exposed himself as a Killer with out thought !
Thus ,, This Little Fly that Died That night ,, Has Set up the Destiny of Obama. Ever rowing “Upstream ” to reach A Summit That Putin Now Holds Alone,,,, Alone, Without ever Moving.
Remember DBLA , their are watchers for stuff Like This and so it is reported.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rbUH_iVjYw
Review this again,, and think .. about all that has happened since the Night The Fly Died by “Hand of Obama” .
I now again State That I Believe Astrologically And Politically That The POTUS has
a Badly Aspected Leo , for what little i May know.
OH HI James !! Back also am I ,,
Connecting with Our Exo community have I Been.
i guess i spoke too soon – hi rc! obama has sun in leo square neptune in scorpio.. that would constitute a badly aspected leo in one obvious respect… all hope but no real substance.. this was the criticism of obama from day 1..
just catching up on some reading and i note the question of which chart for the usa has had an entertaining flow of exchange between a couple of folks over on noel tyl’s forum.. for anyone interested, lorenzo seems to shred jamies views in a pretty thorough manner here.
http://noeltyl.com/discussion/index.php?topic=3927.0
dick cheney situation doesn’t look good astrologically… transit saturn on his first house neptune, a sign of weakened health amplified by the t of saturn.. the solar arcs have saturn presently at 17 cancer 42, while the saturn/neptune midpoint is at 17 cancer 52, so once again the health axis in his chart – saturn/neptune – having a hit from sa saturn – all unfavourable in terms of health..
upon closer examination solar arc ascendant is exactly 45 his natal neptune – again same theme repeated here in a more serious manner.. solar arc midheaven is exactly square his natal jupiter and 135 his natal moon in pisces, there being an exact 45 between jupiter/moon in his chart.. often times jupiter appears in focus at the time of one’s death… the prognosis is not good for cheney here and if i was a betting person i don’t see him making it through the astro here… i have said this before and been wrong..
i don’t make these kinds of predictions very often, the one on mccrystal being the first in a long time..
Obama and Pluto/Venus
Obama’s Venus is within a degree of where the Sun was when it formed the fourth leg of a grand cross which included the inaugural Pluto when he fired General McChrystal. As we’re all aware, transiting Pluto has been in opposition to his Venus for quite some time since the campaign. At that time, it correlated with Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton. In fact at the time, Raging Universe wrote a devastatingly perceptive portrait of Sarah Palin as the incarnation of Venus/Pluto. But now that he’s been governing for 18 months, we’re seeing it in a succession of power struggles and confrontations, if I can call it that, with powerful adversaries: the big banks, a disfunctional Senate and the obstructionist GOP, McChrystal and the military, and the Taliban, who is fighting a successful insurgency against the U.S. despite the U.S.’s unparalleled military superiority. By the way, replacing McChrystal with Petraeus has simply replaced one opponent with a more formidable one in Petraeus. Obama’s vulnerability vis-a-vis Petraeus is shown by his Saturn in Capricorn and in the 12th house, which is aspected by Petraeus’s Mars (conjunction) and Uranus (opposition). Saturn in Capricorn suggests he tends to be deferential to the establishment and its institutions. On top of that, Petraeus is revered like a god among Washington’s chattering classes, so it would be extremely difficult to go against his general. Obama’s Uranus does square Petraeus’s Sun, which reflects Obama’s position as CIC and as Petraeus’s superior. But Obama also has his Neptune conjunct Petraeus’s Sun, which is not conducive to asserting his will over Petraeus. Neptune would undermine that possibility. It could also make him blind to the man’s faults and to idealize him.
Obama has an exact natal Saturn Uranus quincunx, which also explains his conflicts with progressives and his own Democratic base. But in terms of his working with Petraeus, given this aspect along with the Mars Saturn synastry, it looks like Petraeus will feel constrained by Obama, who is not by nature inclined to take big risks like his former CIC, George W. Bush.
One last thing. The inaugural chart with the t-square of Saturn, Uranus, and Pluto on the inaugural Pluto in the 8th house really shows the magnitude of the crisis the White House is in with regard to the War in Afghanistan (and the BP oil spill).
A senior adviser to McChrystal was quoted in Michael Hastings’ Rolling Stone article:
“Even those closest to McChrystal know that the rising anti-war sentiment at home doesn’t begin to reflect how deeply fucked up things are in Afghanistan. “If Americans pulled back and started paying attention to this war, it would become even less popular,” a senior adviser to McChrystal says.”
“The entire COIN strategy is a fraud perpetrated on the American people.” Douglas MacGregor, Retired Colonel
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/57001
james,
If the reports are to be believed Cheney is having a problem with retaining fluids in his body.
Getting an IV with a powerful diuretic in it is just a temporary fix.
The man has been on meds. for years along with every heart procedure that was done to keep him alive.
Eventually the body doesn’t respond to the meds, and the organs start giving out.
Very likely he’s having kidney issues.
rc @13,
Folding my palms together in your direction. Marvelous comment.
helena 18 – good overview and i agree with your astro assessments..
vermont calling 19 – thanks for expressing more details on this.. i haven’t been following it… fluids can be a moon thing, while kidneys are libra/venus related… his moon in pisces is in opposition to his natal neptune.. this opposition is under pressure from saturn still.. venus in cap is not a great placement and in his chart it is opposed by chiron in cancer. july 5th has jupiter at 2 aries 54 which is exactly 150 to his natal ascendant from the 8th house… we’ll see where this is going fairly quickly…
“helena, this is from a post of yours on the other thread that i’d like to comment on. “Well, it seems to me writings which continue to be read after thousands of years have some importance.”
i agree! they often have way too much importance and it is not so much the writing as it is the one’s doing the reading.” James
*****
Actually, look more closely, you are disagreeing. And, it’s an entirely different point you’re making. Must be the synastry. lol
james,
Thanks for the link to the NPR interview with Renee and Bill, I enjoyed it,and they make beautiful music together.
This interview and the playing of “The Saros Cycle” was played yesterday on NPR, June 25th the day of the eclipse!
Now that’s really some coincidence!
rc, #13
As I was reading this comment I was viewing the scene again in my mind, it appeared as a story book with illustrations.
I then titled it”What Really Happened”
If you can draw a bit, try putting down some of your tales you’ve shared with us, maybe in a comic book form?
james,
Medical explanation of heart failure and ones kidneys.
in heart failure, the heart may not pump enough blood to meet the body’s need for oxygen and nutrients, which are supplied by the blood. As a result, arm and leg muscles may tire more quickly, and the kidneys may not function normally. The kidneys filter fluid and waste products from the blood into the urine, but when the heart cannot pump adequately, the kidneys malfunction and cannot remove excess fluid from the blood. As a result, the amount of fluid in the bloodstream increases, and the workload of the failing heart increases, creating a vicious circle. Thus, heart failure becomes even worse.
p.s. @22,
Here I had shut down the computer to engage in a favorite form of everyday alchemy – baking bread, but then the thought wasn’t finished…
James,
Your point about what people read into the Bible is well taken. I’m alluding to something quite different. Why certain works of art or writings live on for centuries while others enjoy a brief day in the sun and then perish is an important question.
It was quite an experience for me and a revelation to hear the Cabalist presenting the teachings on the Bible. One point. Second point: two different individuals can speak the same words, but one is infused with the Holy Spirit or the “Shekinah” and that has a power and an impact that the other does not. The other is just an empty exercise of mouthing words that are unensouled. “I am become as sounding brass or a tinkling symbol…” St. Paul
That’s my experience. That’s unarguable. And as a rule, I don’t argue with people’s experiences. I’m talking about experience, not interpretation.
As I said, we’re talking about completely different things although on the same subject…cheers
Netanyahu’s US trip threatened by disgruntled staff.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-s-u-s-trip-threatened-by-disgruntled-foreign-ministry-staff-1.298632
AND–more are falling !!
POLITICO Breaking News:
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Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) was admitted to a Washington-area hospital late last week, his office said in a statement Sunday: “Byrd was admitted to the hospital late last week suffering from what was believed to be heat exhaustion and severe dehydration as a result of the extreme temperatures. He was expected to remain in the hospital not more than a few days. “However, upon further examination by his doctors, other conditions have developed which has resulted in his condition being described as ’serious.’”
For more information…http://www.politico.com
Hi Helena ,, And I Back to You.
http://www.exoticindiaart.com/sculptures/folded_hands_portable_folding_temple_of_medicine_rp11sm.jpg
Thankyou.
DBLA, I was just reading about Byrd and was about to post it,you’re like quick-silver…. also SOS Ginsberg’s husband passed on today.
Helena,
Your post from yesterday
“” December is when the policy review is expected to take place.
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2010/06/obama-hostage-to-petraeus-andrew-sullivan.html“”
Today, the talk shows, kept pushing to change the withdrawal date from July 11, 2011. Obama will follow, whatever Petraeus says—along with the usual McCain/Lieberman/Graham ! I loved the thought of Pres. Kucinich too !! I’d like to give it a try. I feel we are trapped today–but my moods change from hour to hour –right now –lol ?
I am reposting this !! It did not show up before, I do not think and sorry if it is a duplicate !
The last post: McChrystal’s bleak outlook
President Obama lost patience with Runaway General’s failed strategy
Sacked US General Stanley McChrystal issued a devastatingly critical
assessment of the war against a “resilient and growing insurgency”
just days before being forced out.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-last-post-mcchrystals-bleak-outlook-2011730.html
Military disturbed by rapid turnover at top in Afghan, Iraq wars
Explanations for the shortage of good generals abound. Some young
officers blame the Pentagon’s insistence on sticking with its
peacetime promotion policies. Military personnel rules prevent the top
brass from reaching down into the ranks and plucking out
high-performers who have proved themselves especially adept at
counterinsurgency or have amassed significant knowledge about
Afghanistan and Iraq. “In all previous wars, promotions were
accelerated for officers who were effective,” a senior Army official
said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/26/AR2010062604392_pf.html
helena 26 – this is quite an interesting conversation as i see it.. only you know the synastry, lol… commenting on it here would reveal more then you ”appear” willing to want to share here .. but touching on it as you have makes me wonder about your intentions..
here’s what i think : the interpretation is the experience.. i think it’s why 2 people can view/experience what seems like the same thing and come away with a different experience of it.. this explains why there is great division on what many think about what the bible is saying.. according to some the ”whole” bible as put together by these early church fathers is infused with the holy spirit, but the other books that weren’t as both vermont calling and i have pointed out, were not viewed as such.. i don’t agree with the heirachy that is in place.. i never have.. some do and are quite comfortable with it..
we each have our own experience unique to us.. i acknowledge this, if it wasn’t apparent. i am sharing mine to the best of my ability here and trying to understand others to the best of my ability as well.. thanks for the additional comments..
vermont calling – glad you liked that.. yes to the saros cycle – she mentioned it last night right before playing that piece too.. it seems she has an interest in astronomy and was unaware of that or how it tied in with the eclipses…
this is without going into just what the bible is or isn’t..
Helena,
you commented:
“”Neptune would undermine that possibility. It could also make him blind to the man’s faults and to idealize him.”"
Obama’s Neptune on Petraeus’s Sun. I have seen this happen so much in real life. People, do just become blinded. But, we do have the Bush/Council on Foreign Relations/Obama Cabal too!. They all work together !
james,
I hope you had a great trip ! I love the Sabian Synbols too, really pin point things. But I look for symbols/sign daily! I agree, Cheney could go anytime ! I have thought that for months, with Saturn rolling into Libra. My father had problems with his heart/lungs not working together Heart beat too slow, which caused other bodily functions to not work in rhythm. It can be a retention of water/and stress to the kidneys..
He lives in fear, and hypertension , anyway !
rc,
Obama said ” I got the sucker “” !!!
Oh, bad sign !
Putin watches all things, I do not think he lets anything go without scrutiny. I am still annoyed that he missed dinner with Putin, to eat with his family—”"imagine, how Putin feels”"? Plus, scheduling morning meetings, when he knows that Putin sleeps in
late !! I bet Putin is keeping count !
Obama and Netanhayu meeting 7-6-2010
This equal a “# seven day”
This is a very spiritual number. A built in inner guide providing a strong sense of intuition may set you up as being a law unto yourself. Whatever spiritual position you take, whether traditional or bizarre, you will cling to it with fervor. Once you have decided an issue, it is almost impossible to get you to revisit the question. Adaptability is not your style, and change for you is a rarity.
Even taking the # “six” is one of family and relationships being important. The Lovers Card in Tarot.
But–with these two, I do not trust either one, on any day. They can be concilatory on 7-6- and by 7-7-2010, the next day, change their minds. Tell us that we took their words out of context, we misunderstood or totally try and convince us, that they never met at all !!
Both will have to have action and not just meetings and words, before I would believe anything would be a working path forward! My opinion, only !
Meeting the King of Saudi Arabia is a
# 2 day— June 29, 2010..Obama is a # 2. It should be a meeting of agreements, very pleasing for each other… kissing the hand and bowing and having a great time together !
The President Chooses the Guru
David Petraeus is not a blunt instrument. He’s the most politically savvy military man of his generation.
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175266/tomgram%3A_robert_dreyfuss%2C_the_president_chooses_the_guru/
~ Mullen to make unplanned stop in Israel after Afghanistan visit
U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff speaks to IDF Chief of Staff on a weekly basis on a secure line connecting their respective offices.
Admiral Michael Mullen was to arrive in Israel on Sunday for a meeting with Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi and senior Israeli military staff. The meeting was to follow the recent visit by Defense Minister Ehud Barak to Washington, and the annual strategic dialogue between Israel and the U.S. in Tel Aviv.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/mullen-to-make-unplanned-stop-in-israel-after-afghanistan-visit-1.298460
Vermont calling,
They should give them a raise! and get over it—!
Change in the Mossad ?
Mossad chief Meir Dagan to step down’
Dagan, who has been Mossad director since 2002, requested another year
but was refused, Channel 2 news reported.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/mossad-chief-meir-dagan-to-step-down-1.298372
Another reason to stay in Afghanistan ?
China firms join controversial Pakistan nuclear push
BEIJING June 24 (Reuters) – Chinese companies this month quietly signed a contract to cooperate in building two nuclear reactors at Pakistan’s Chashma atomic complex, advancing a controversial project that has worried Washington and India.
http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFTOE65N02E20100624?sp=true
Hello Vermont Calling,, rc here.. indeed if i could only draw,, lol… an age or two ago maybe yes.
but today, the planets of 1995 produced this wonderfull devise called a Mac book lap top !
that said, as i face west ,,It is “Torch on the Porch ” night..
http://www.ivgstores.com/prodimages-cdls/PG/p-FM-C3052-L.jpg
tonight they are lit, lap top close by
rc,
I really like your lightning,there’s a simplistic beauty to them and lit they must give off a soft(romantic) glow…
A glass of wine and life is real good! 2 glasses and it’s even better..
Did you feel last weeks Canadian earthquake? I was sleeping but others here felt it.
Hi VTC,, that shaker eluded me also,,, weird you know,, like directly above the gulf,,, it was and i thought ,, oh my.. the country is going split into two !!
Speaking of Wine i have planted my first two Vines of grapes ,, lol in a few short years , i will have trained these plants to line the pathways of my smaller realm, providing
nutriant and chemical for ingestion,, care taker of the grape , i will become……….
Arianna Huffington has had a “very exciting” LIFE—
Arianna Says Frustration With Obama Goes Beyond Left And Right On
‘Fareed Zakaria GPS’
Spitzer said that Obama needs to do more to take charge of the oil
spill response. “He trusts people too much,” Spitzer said. “He trusted
Wall Street. He trusted the Republicans to engage in a meaningful way.
He trusted BP. He’s 0 for three.”
“What Eliot said is absolutely critical,” Arianna continued.
“Liberals are dismayed. They’re angry. They’re abandoning him,” Zakaria said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/arianna-fareed-zakaria-obama_b_627015.html
Arianna Huffington (born July 15, 1950) is a Greek-American author and
syndicated columnist. She is best known as co-founder of the
progressive news website The Huffington Post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianna_Huffington
rc,
YEA, your Greek ROOTS, are coming out.
Take your shoes off !!!
Helena,
Thanks for your input on the Gore escapade, I had thought about what you had previously said about going to a clients hotel room at 11pm, and it wasn’t clear in what I read or heard about what name Gore used.
I would have given her a pass on that decision of hers had she been told by the hotel it was him.
Doesn’t look like this is going anywhere for her.
rc, A vineyard!!!!wine is sacred, talk to your plants, and after reading what DBLA said about Greek roots, speak Greek!!Play music for them.
DBLA, Was impressed listening to Spitzer today, he’s actually a refreshing face….never thought I’d say that! lol
The Jeffrey Goldberg Media continues to exert substantial influence and wreak real havoc, but as is true for most of America’s once-respected institutions — and, indeed, as is true for America itself — it’s inexorably weakening and crumbling, and the merit-free elites (like Goldberg) who cast themselves as the unfair victims are, in fact, the prime authors of their own demise.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/06/27/goldberg/index.html
Not much more to say ???
It’s time to stop demonizing Israel
The flood of hypocrisy and bad faith that seems to have just been
waiting across the media worldwide for the Mavi Marmara is by no means
acceptable.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/it-s-time-to-stop-demonizing-israel-1.294833
The roots of Israeli exceptionalism
http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/06/20106146372913751.html
The burden of hypocrisy
The idea of hypocrisy (although not the Hebrew word) is among the most
important concepts in the Hebrew Bible. The theme is picked up in the
New Testament and is one of the behaviours that most angered Jesus,
particularly as portrayed in the Gospel of Matthew, where he condemns
people who “do not practice what they preach” (Matthew, 23:3).
Many commentators have suggested that his ill-chosen words in the now
infamous Rolling Stone interview, and the even more damaging
statements by several of his close aides, reflect an increasingly
politicised, right-wing military – a growing majority of whose
officers are Evangelical Christian Republicans who seem willing to put
their faith above their oath to uphold and protect the constitution
and the pluralistic, civilian-governed society founded upon it.
http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/06/20106268233675259.html
Petraeus, is the “golden boy “…
The 36 Hours That Shook Washington
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/opinion/27rich.html
Feinstein: If Petraeus Wants Afghanistan Troop Drawdown Scrapped,
‘Give It To Him, Absolutely’
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/27/feinstein-petraeus-afghanistan-troops_n_626983.html
This woman is crazy !!
US congressional insights on the Middle East
I won’t be surprised if the US Congress stumbles on a document that “proves” that Hizbullah collaborated with the Nazi regime in WWII.
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/
Congresswoman Raises Red Flag on Hezbollah-Cartel Nexus on U.S. Border
, Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., called on Homeland Security to find out and report more on the extent of the problem. She cited several troubling developments that would point to Hezbollah creeping closer to and inside the United States, with the help of Mexican drug gangs.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/25/congresswoman-raises-red-flag-hezbollah-cartel-nexus-border/
Today’s chart
http://www.astrologysoftware.com/today/chart.asp?orig
from http://www.cosmicpath.com
# Moon in Capricorn
# Moon enters Aquarius: 8:53am
# Void of Course Moon: 5:57am – 8:53am
# PLUTO IS RETROGRADE
# NEPTUNE IS RETROGRADE
# CHIRON IS RETROGRADE
# MERCURY IS OUT OF BOUNDS
We are still sitting inside the powerful lunar eclipse energies that took place at the full Moon last Saturday morning. This eclipse involved Pluto and Mercury and until these two planets have completed their aspects to each other, the Sun and the Moon, the eclipse and all its effects won’t be complete. In fact the final piece of this eclipse energy won’t occur until next Saturday, July 3rd, when the Sun connects with the Moon’s South Node.
from http://www.stariq.com
A Sun-Mercury conjunction in reserved Cancer aligns intent with words, so we may choose to withhold what we know. It becomes even harder to express our emotions when the Moon enters quirky Aquarius at 11:39 am EDT.
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ADMIN…
The frustrating surroundings will continue for weeks/months as a result of the eclipse! I do not see any common-practical sense, yet. Alena Kagan’s confirmation hearings starts today. She is part of the establishment group, and will be confirmed.
Replacing Sen. Bryd’s Senate seat, sounds like it could get interesting?
POLITICO Breaking News:
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Sen. Robert Byrd, the longest serving senator in U.S. history, has died at
the age of 92, his office announced.
For more information…http://www.politico.com
November 20, 1917(1917-11-20)
North Wilkesboro, North Carolina, United States
Robert Byrd’s health and Joe Manchin’s ambition
The governor who would make the appointment wants the seat for himself
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/06/27/byrd_senate_appointment/index.html?source=newsletter
King Abdulla, of Saudi Arabia’s visit 6-29-2010, and Netanhayu’s on 7-6-2010, may have more meaning, then we know about?
IAF Planes in Saudi Arabia?
While the public move is sanctions on Iran, American military might
steams toward the Persian Gulf.
http://arisfreedomswitch.blogspot.com/
Report: IAF planes spotted over Saudi Arabia
http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=179274
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—BP to File Claim Against Transocean
http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/
http://peureport.blogspot.com/
War spending has to STOP–! I believe Krugman to be correct…..
The Third Depression
By PAUL KRUGMAN
And this third depression will be primarily a failure of policy. Around the world — most recently at last weekend’s deeply discouraging G-20 meeting — governments are obsessing about inflation when the real threat is deflation, preaching the need for belt-tightening when the real problem is inadequate spending.
So I don’t think this is really about Greece, or indeed about any realistic appreciation of the tradeoffs between deficits and jobs. It is, instead, the victory of an orthodoxy that has little to do with rational analysis, whose main tenet is that imposing suffering on other people is how you show leadership in tough times.
And who will pay the price for this triumph of orthodoxy? The answer is, tens of millions of unemployed workers, many of whom will go jobless for years, and some of whom will never work again.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/28/opinion/28krugman.html?ref=todayspaper&om_rid=DNv4Y2&om_mid=_BMKJleB8MtbxlP&
A miserable, pathetic,egotistical threesome !
Palin: Obama Selling Out Israel
Palin, former Virginia Sen. George Allen and Iran-Contra figure Oliver North, who ran for a Virginia Senate seat and lost, each took turns decrying what they said was the deterioration of U.S. military might and will under Obama’s watch.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/27/palin-obama-israel_n_627285.html
High Finance – reality beginning to bite From: Marjorie. (28 Jun
2010 11:45):
The G20 summit along with a raft of downward figures across the globe
for trade, housing etc is focussing the minds of the economic high IQs
on the malodorous prospect of the next great dip.
The credit chief at RBS (Royal Bank of Scotland) says in a note to
investors:- “We cannot stress enough how strongly we believe that a
cliff-edge may be around the corner, for the global banking system
(particularly in Europe) and for the global economy. Think the
unthinkable.” Societe Generale’s top dog said the Fed Reserve and
other central banks will be forced to print more money whatever they
now say, given the “stinking fiscal mess” across the developed world.
The Bank for International Settlements warns, sovereign debt crises
are nearing “boiling point” in half the world economy.
Uncheerful though it is, for once they may be right since the
astrology is certainly all pointing that way.
Ben Bernanke of the Fed Res is a firm advocate of quantitative easing
(printing money) to keep the economy stimulated tho’ he may not win
the argument in the US. His chart certainly indicates that the major
and panicky pressures which picked up on his chart in 2008 won’t
disappear for another two years and he’s got quite a jolt coming in
2011/12 as his Solar Arc Uranus squares his natal Sagittarius Sun.
His natal T square of Uranus opp NNode in Capricorn square Mars
Neptune has been moving by Solar Arc Directions to have first SArc
Mars Neptune conjunct his Sun in 2008 and SArc Uranus is now moving to
complete the four year worst-ever shake up in his chart and life. He’s
also got a really tough, slog-on tr Pluto conjunct his SArc Saturn in
this July/Aug and Oct/Nov which tr Saturn also squares in late Aug
2010 and then tr Uranus opposes his SArc Saturn in 11/12 with
considerable tensions ensuing from that.
The Fed Reserve chart itself tells much the same story with its’ very
central Saturn Pluto in Cancer having been under pressure from tr
Pluto since 2008 and it now facing another dose of a discouraging tr
Saturn square Saturn Pluto across this summer; and then tr Saturn
conjunct Midheaven and conjunct SArc Saturn Pluto – which is a serious
reality check requiring tough decisions.
The Fed Res Saturn Pluto is tied into a Water Grand Trine of Saturn
Pluto trine Mercury Moon in Scorpio trine NNode in Pisces. Into
2011/12 tr Uranus is adding another huge jolt in a square to that
natal Saturn Pluto and pulling at all of the Grand Trine; with tr
Pluto adding pressure and intense arguments with sextiles to the
Mercury Moon. By 2012 tr Pluto square tr Uranus hits the Midheaven if
the 9am start is accurate, but even if not will catch the Solar Arc
Saturn Pluto through 13/14. And just to add to the Fed Reserves’ woes
- as if Saturn, Pluto, Uranus wasn’t enough – tr Neptune into Pisces
will start an undermining conjunction to the Pisces North Node and
trine Saturn Pluto in 12/13.
Definitely grit teeth for a bumpy ride ahead.
james,
Thanks for the info. I went to Noel Tyl’s site. Great information/discussion there, but very “heavy”…!
I enjoy it very much, and learn from it.
McCrystal and Petraeus – career roundabout From: Marjorie. (27 Jun 2010 10:24):
I was intrigued by General McCrystal’s dismissal by Barack Obama since it doesn’t show up clearly on their relationship chart. I use composite charts to get timings so it adds another dimension to synastry – though nothing much showed up here in terms of outer planet transits to the composite Sun or Moon which is usually the case.
Though from the transits to midpoints it is clear their relationship has been under pressure for some time with a good deal of anger and frustration on both sides.
The theory now is that the Rolling Stones disloyal quotes were just a convenient excuse for Obama since McCrystal’s time scale for the Afghanistan involvement was a great deal longer than the Obama team thought politically expedient.
Their relationship chart does have a Sun Uranus conjunction so there would be an element of neither of them wanting to compromise. What was more damaging was a Neptune Mars conjunction which is not mutally supportive – one wins, the other feels as if they are losing.
McCrystal’s own chart has been labouring very heavily under Solar Arc Mars opposing his Sun in recent times (and maybe SArc Mars conj Moon) and heading to oppose his Pluto in the two years ahead. So he’s in the most trapped phase of his life. And I can’t imagine with a Sun Pluto trine Mars in Sag natally that he took at all kindly to being cornered by politicians (or anyone else).
David Petraeus is an intense, stubborn, expansive and highly controlling Scorpio Sun opp Jupiter in Taurus square Pluto. He’s also got an impulsive Uranus opp Mars square Saturn Neptune so is quite a mix of reckless, autocratic, vague, visionary, well organised.
He’s now being talked of as the political saviour of the moment but he’s got SArc Saturn conjunct Venus soon which will make him feel unpopular and unappreciated plus SArc Pluto conjunct Neptune also later this year into 2011 which is confused and uncertain. He’ll bounce up again in 2013/14/15 as his SArc Jupiter is conjunct his Uranus and opposes his Mars. He does have a streak of good luck about him so will always benefit from suddenly changing circumstances.
His relationship with Obama is less problematic than McCrystal’s was – indeed is reasonably easy going with a Sun Venus opp Jupiter in the composite.
Albert and Putin are friends–working on animal and environmental issues together !
Prince Albert – crawling into marriage From: Marjorie. (27 Jun 2010 19:03):
Prince Albert of Monaco has announced his long awaited engagement – to South African Olympic swimmer Charlene Wittstock. The marriage is due mid 2011.
He was born 14 March 1958 at 10.47 am Monte Carlo and it’s fairly obvious why he has delayed so long in committing himself. He has a 10th house Sun Pisces so well designed for a public career with his Sun square a 7th house Saturn which often hints at a marriage that comes later in life than most. Plus he has a changeable, detached Venus in Aquarius opposition Uranus square Neptune in Scorpio. Uranus will make him jump back from a tied-down relationship. Neptune will make him uncommitted in a different way – always looking for perfection which real life doesn’t offer. Plus he has a deeply buried 8th house Moon and Mars in Capricorn and a 4th house Pluto – so from various different angles he’s scared of being trapped.
His bride-to-be (if the engagement holds) was born on 25 Jan 1978 at 12.35pm (astrotheme) either in Jo’Burg, SAfrica or in Bulawayo, Zimbabwe. She’s a Sun Venus in Aquarius so also quite detached. And with her Sun Venus opposition Mars in Leo she’ll be quite fiery. Her Moon is in Leo as well as Saturn, with Moon square a 7th house Uranus. So she’s none too eager to be tied down either. She’ll like the importance of being a Princess with Saturn and Moon in Leo but she’s also changeable emotionally and wants elbow room. Plus she has an 8th house Neptune which looks for perfection. In many ways they are not that dissimilar but whether that is a recipe for success or disaster, time will tell.
Their relationship chart has a Sun opp Jupiter which is certainly enthusiastic and indulgent. But it also has Neptune squaring that opposition which is a fairy tale that might not have a happy ending – too much illusion that leads to disappointment. Plus the Sun is trine Saturn Mars Moon – which looks aggravated, argumentative, not mutually supportive or more duty than pleasure.
The relationship chart is being undermined this year by tr Neptune trine Saturn and worse from next March onwards tr Neptune opposing Jupiter and conjunct the composite Sun and trine the comp Mars – so panics will set in or worse. I suspect there’ll be a fair few ups and downs before this year is out with tr Uranus opp the comp Uranus (Pluto).
His chart looks uncertain and confused on the relationship front this year with his Solar Arc Neptune conjunct his 7th house Saturn. And his Secondary Progressed Moon goes into his 7th come later this year which is often when flaws in relationships show up; or there is need for major re-adjustments.
Though Charlene does look very upbeat in coming months with her SArc Jupiter conjunct her Mars.
Beautiful woman, like Princess Grace, Albert’s mother///
Monaco Red Cross Ball(Charlene Wittstock)
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/Q4KjFl32zfG/Monaco+Red+Cross+Ball/-zvjAQ6vCYC/Charlene+Wittstock
Whose Supreme Court is it?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/27/AR2010062703527.html
Troops etc/ in Saudia Arabia made bin Laden angry in the first place–years ago. Diplomacy would be cheaper,
forget the religious propaganda, and work things out in a practical manner.
( IAF Landed at Saudi Base, US Troops near Iran Border }
Iran is Surrounded by US Troops in 10 Countries
The Persian Gulf is on Iran’s southern border, and last week’s report, confirmed by the Pentagon, that 11 warships had sailed through the Suez Canal, raised alarm bells that the U.S. is ready to fight to keep the Persian Gulf open.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/138284
Credit– Vermont calling with this one———–
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, November/December 1996,
Personality
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/1196/9611019.htm
James @33,
Knowing the synastry would create an unlevel playing field. We don’t have that here…
*****
I now view the discussion about the authenticity of the bible, the authorship of the Gospels, and whatever part the Church Fathers may haveplayed in this as a manifestation of the Saturn Neptune quincunx: the skepticism, the shadow side of religion, falsehoods relating to religion and its high priests. Also your comment about “the old book” illustrates the archetypal tension between the old and the new, or “senex” and “puer,” which we’re currently seeing in the Uranus in Aries square to Pluto in Cappy.
It is a privilege as astrologers to have a front row seat watching the panoply of events, hoping to see glimpses of the unfolding self-revelation of the world soul. That’s why I’m here at this blog, and to be among friends. I’m worried. The administration is in crisis. Pluto in the inauguration chart is in the 8th and Saturn and Pluto are squaring it. It looks like this war and where the administration is right now is a life and death matter for them. McChrystal and the Rolling Stone article ripped the emperor’s clothes off, and we’re living out a tragedy in Afghanistan which will probably continue to go on because our “leaders” don’t have the courage to end it. I think this is a darkness before the dawn moment in the country, and perhaps in our western cultural history.
james,
I believe you are on the right track. Israel and allies/ vs Iran– ( religion ) is pushing their program, to make it “the end of times”. I have been more concerned since Israel attacked the Humanitarian ship–and the U.S. upheld this attack. Actually the 2208/2009 attack on Gaza was horrifying, while the world sat and watched ! And to see further failures in Afghanistan, I see the Administration in Crisis and lacking the courage to get out. It is if, they are wearing blinders, to any common sense. Yes, I feel the darkness and the reason I personally have the feelings of entrapment ! Any light at the end of the tunnel seems dimmer everyday ! Our arrogance or stupidity is amazing?
Colonialism, Obama-Style
As in the Bush administration, so in the age of Obama: the “antiwar” Democrats will make a lot of noise and then cave, in the end: bribery works every time. Their “antiwar” stance is just a bargaining chip: what they really care about is how much lard they’ll be allowed to pack into the legislation.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/06/27/colonialism-obama-style/
Two–New Books—————
Book Review: American Conspiracies by Jesse Ventura
Two thumbs up and five stars for American Conspiracies.
Jesse, watch your back.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/American-Conspiracies-by-J-by-Daniel-Bruno-Sanz-100624-57.html
“The Official 9/11 Story…Accept Without Question”
Do your own research; dig beyond the news presented by the mass media.
Although it remains unpopular to ask questions about September 11th,
we must summon courage, for, as Thomas Jefferson once said, “All
tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to
remain silent.”
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Official-9-11-Story–by-Nathan-Janes-100624-93.html
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dbla – thanks for all the positive energy here with your posts and comments.. i appreciate it!
helena – thanks for the thoughtful reply, sometime that i am not necessarily as good at! for me any conversation around “”the authenticity of the bible, the authorship of the Gospels, and whatever part the Church Fathers may have played in this as a manifestation”" has been an ongoing conversation for my whole life and not just in connection with the saturn/neptune quincunx… if more people are having it under this transit – which is very possible – then all the better as i see it..
the whole conversation hinges around ”’power”’ and its use and abuse… i would add our relationship here into this same vortex as well as in so far as we examine what does or doesn’t have power and act out of a particular viewpoint on it all, will decide how we interact with others… i conclude you have a strong pluto hitting one of the 3 important parts to as astro chart – sun, moon or the angles… it is up to each of us to work through all this implies.. for me, letting go is where the real power rests…. unfortunately as we look out in the world and see – most cling to this or the other external thing, thinking it has the power when i see it differently… astrology charts have something valuable to communicate and it helps the more one knows about them, but in my final analysis it doesn’t matter so much as what a person does with the chart.. i have seen myself act out of a position of both freedom and fate when it comes to all this… i prefer to see the former, but in order to do so i must be able to see how i inhibit and handicap myself… one of the ways i see this happening is in giving power to something that really has no power over me..
to me this is a vast conversation that a plutoian person needs to work thru… it is like the snake shedding it’s skin.. being attached to anything external is like giving away the real power that lies within oneself and within all of us..
perhaps this is the vital transformation that everyone has to see and take for themselves.. it is a journey, but before it can be taken it is necessary to see the need for it.. letting go is the first and last step on this path as i see it.. as soon as we veer from this, we fall into a ditch off the path.. each one of us has to decide what this means in the present moment we find ourselves..
dbla -marjorie orr relies on composite charts too much… sure it is a crap shoot whether obama would sack mccrystal or not, but i think it was obvious and the astro backed it up – the astro of the moment, not the composite chart and what it said.. it doesn’t matter in the end..
helena – interesting comments on the inauguration chart.. i don’t know if i would put as much faith in it as in the transits and movements of the outer planets to planet earth, but i am curious so if you can give me the details on the chart, i’ll have a look..
dbla – the religion thing is really fascinating as i think it is what everyone here is very aware of – the connection with the born again end of timers and the zionists who are using them and anyone who supports the idea of a holy bible that is factual and not mythological.. longer conversation and i have to go as i have a few things i want to get down today…
i have this crazy idea since my friend – computer wiz – brian is visiting from out of town today and tomorrow – that i can set up my website to have an astrological side to it where i could rant on it too.. he has some great ideas like – videoing the chart i am looking at and commenting on it via videa would would include the audio.. it is a fun idea and he also has some fun ideas connected to adding my music in a way that is more accessible for others… we’ll see what i get done and i will be sharing this at some point in time, hopefully sooner then later… thank for the conversations and if i missed something that requires a comment, let me know!!! thanks – james
What is going on? Business as usual up-front, while we have covert scenes behind the doors? or is this just being misinterpreted?
ISRAEL ‘PLOTS TEHRAN RAID’
MANAMA: Israel is massing warplanes in the Caucasus for an attack on
Iran, it was revealed yesterday.
Preparations are underway to launch the military attack from
Azerbaijan and Georgia, reports our sister paper Akhbar Al Khaleej,
quoting military sources.
* Iran last night said it has cancelled plans to send an aid ship to
the Gaza Strip as Israel “had sent a letter to the UN saying that the
presence of Iranian and Lebanese ships in the Gaza area will be
considered a declaration of war on that regime and it will confront
it,” Irna said.
http://www.opednews.com/populum/linkframe.php?linkid=114296
http://www.opednews.com/Quicklink/ISRAEL-PLOTS-TEHRAN-RAID-in-General_News-100627-807.html
The Last Bastion of American Morality Is Under Assault
The solution, of course, is for the few remaining independent countries in the Middle East to be brought by force under US and Israeli hegemony.
The Presbyterian Church, as it is the only US organization that is not under the Israel Lobby’s suzerainty, is included among the independent institutions that must be brought to heel.
The Rabbis in every American community will buttonhole the Presbyterian ministers and ask them to explain why they are anti-semites and beat their wives. The Presbyterian General Assembly, which meets in July, will again be intimidated, as it was previously, and vote down the recommendations in the church’s report on the Israeli/Palestinian issue.
The weak forces of morality will again be defeated by the Israelis, and the extermination of the Palestinians will continue.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Last-Bastion-of-Americ-by-paul-craig-roberts-100628-809.html
Hi Helena,
Your comments on the timing of this discussion in relation to the Saturn/Neptune quincunx , have me puzzled?
“I now view the discussion about the authenticity of the bible, the authorship of the Gospels, and whatever part the Church Fathers may haveplayed in this as a manifestation of the Saturn Neptune quincunx: the skepticism, the shadow side of religion, falsehoods relating to religion and its high priests. Also your comment about “the old book” illustrates the archetypal tension between the old and the new, or “senex” and “puer,” which we’re currently seeing in the Uranus in Aries square to Pluto in Cappy.”
Are you referring to the timing of the comments or the beliefs behind the comments that james and I, which were very similar, made?
Speaking for myself, my beliefs( as previously stated) about the Gospels, and most of the Old and New Testaments go back years, these are topics that I’ve had many discussions with others about throughout those years, and they didn’t just surface under this transit.
Please clarify..
Thanks Helena,
james, I was writing my comment as yours was posted!
HOW, can this woman go on TV and criticize anyone? after all of her shenanigans? I would be mortified to go on camera, after all the disruption she has caused. How did she manage to be a serious reporter herself, between the affairs, and getting pregnant…? with a married man? She is rediculous!
Lara Logan Slams Michael Hastings, Rolling Stone Over McChrystal Article (VIDEO)
CBS Reporter Slams Rolling Stone
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/28/lara-logan-slams-michael_n_627601.html
CBS News Correspondent Lara Logan Pregnant; Father a Married Federal Contractor
Logan — a South Africa native who began dating Burkett following her November breakup with CNN correspondent Michael Ware — said she and Burkett plan to marry eventually.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,378384,00.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/08/lara-logan-pregnant-with_n_111392.html
james,
Once again you hit it out of “my” ballpark, comments on the bible and written word.
I also was laughing, thinking how quite a few times you’ve taken a belief I hold and as they say ran with it, you,being able to express it in much greater detail and language.
I have no need for a speech writer this life,(not that I ever had in past lives) but boy if I did…it would be you.
Think this would be some mercury connection I have with you?
Keep em’ coming, look forward to your posts.
Thanks, james
Hey rc,
Russian spies?…or just some old-fashioned money laundering
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/28/ten-arrested-allegedly-russian-spies
WOW!
I hope this is true, and they are not just” messing with our minds”"?
Pelosi: There Will Be ‘A Serious Drawdown’ From Afghanistan In July 2011
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/28/pelosi-there-will-be-a-se_n_628130.html
House Dems, Citing Corruption, Block Reconstruction Funds For Afghanistan
The request that Lowey is rejecting amounts to $3.9 billion for the
2011 fiscal year.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/28/house-dems-citing-corrupt_n_628126.html
Corruption Suspected in Airlift of Billions in Cash From Kabul
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704638504575318850772872776.html?mod=WSJ_hps_MIDDLETopStories
Hi Vermont … Spy, Spy ,, What the Heckel is A Spy !!!
oh my… I remember.
http://www.dccomics.com/mad/media/downloads/spys_800×600.jpg
Hi James, I want to acknowledge Helenas Excellent Post @64;; I would Like To comment on ” this is a Darkness Before the Dawn moment “”
But Please allow me more time to Put my thought in order for posting purposes, for such responses require proper Refinement ,, at least for my part .
I will Close By saying That ..Yes ” There are going to Be Landslides and boulders falling ”
but As Always As Before , The Astrologist and The Path Lighter will At least Know which way may the safest Be, as These Rocks fall.
Hi Vermont, Back @ 73,, This Could Be another Form of ” Green Technology ”
This Russian Laundry Mat…
http://green.tmcnet.com/topics/green/articles/89935-cisco-commit-1-billion-multi-year-investment-help.htm
I mean,,, ahem…. its all in the interpretation..
Naomi Klein Exposes the Origins and Intentions of the G20
The people of Europe are fighting back in the streets. Will we the
sheeple get out and block the roads?
Is it time for a convoy?
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/57202
Sticking the Public With the Bill for the Bankers’ Crisis
The G20 is an ad-hoc institution with none of the legitimacy of the
United Nations. Since it just tried to stick us with a huge bill for a
crisis most of us had no hand in creating, I say we take a cue from
Martin and Summers. Flip it over, and write on the back of the
envelope: Return to sender.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-klein/sticking-the-public-with_b_627805.html?ir=Daily%20Brief
Helena,
Here is a German perspective—
SPIEGEL Interview With Former Obama Advisor Bruce Riedel
‘McChrystal Has Made A Fool Of Himself’
SPIEGEL: So a serious plan for US withdrawal is off the table?
Riedel: Petraeus would not have taken on the job without being reasonably certain that it is not a hard and fast deadline but an aspiration.
SPIEGEL: Do you think this was a condition Petraeus set, before accepting the job?
Riedel: I know David Petraeus pretty well, and I don’t think he would have (made that demand publicly). But by turning to Petraeus, the president has signaled that he understands that that deadline is an aspiration, not a fixed point.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,703243,00.html
Obama’s War
Petraeus Appointment a Coup with Risks
-http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,703232,00.html-
Helena,
Opps, sorry try this…
Obama’s War
Petraeus Appointment a Coup with Risks
http://www.spiegel.de/international/
Pakistan gets aid from the U.S. and China–nice, if you can get it !
The Nuclear Suppliers Group’s Shameful Silence
Not one of 45 nations could muster the nerve to condemn China’s sales to Pakistan.
Beijing justified the deal on historical grounds, citing its grandfatherly obligations to Pakistan, and also on the logic of restoring nuclear balance in South Asia. The only assurance the Chinese gave was that its nuclear commerce with Pakistan would be in accordance with China’s international obligations.
[SREENIVASAN0629] Xinhua/ZUMA Press
Meanwhile, the United States was nowhere to be found. “India imitates China, Pakistan imitates India. What can we do to stop their nuclear activities?” a senior White House official lamented to a group of nonproliferation experts earlier this month, as though he was speaking for a weak state, not a superpower. He added the U.S. did not want to displease China or Pakistan at this juncture.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704212804575333840545064262.html
Arms on Pakistan-bound ship may be from UN mission: India
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ggu-h1mg3M7yMEXl78oCTQj2ezxA
The U.S, give aid to Pakistan–China gives aid to Pakistan–nice if you can get it ??
The Nuclear Suppliers Group’s Shameful Silence
Not one of 45 nations could muster the nerve to condemn China’s sales to Pakistan.
Beijing justified the deal on historical grounds, citing its grandfatherly obligations to Pakistan, and also on the logic of restoring nuclear balance in South Asia. The only assurance the Chinese gave was that its nuclear commerce with Pakistan would be in accordance with China’s international obligations.
[SREENIVASAN0629] Xinhua/ZUMA Press
Meanwhile, the United States was nowhere to be found. “India imitates China, Pakistan imitates India. What can we do to stop their nuclear activities?” a senior White House official lamented to a group of nonproliferation experts earlier this month, as though he was speaking for a weak state, not a superpower. He added the U.S. did not want to displease China or Pakistan at this juncture.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704212804575333840545064262.html
Arms on Pakistan-bound ship may be from UN mission: India
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ggu-h1mg3M7yMEXl78oCTQj2ezxA
Wow! I am tired today–I just posted that twice !
I am sorry about that !
I thought McChrystal was automatically leaving,, like where would he go next ?
Stanley McChrystal Retiring From The Army After Firing By Obama
Gen. Stanley McChrystal, told the Army on Monday that he will retire.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/28/stanley-mcchrystal-retiri_n_628463.htm
Obama, Petraeus, and the Cult of COIN in Afghanistan
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-dreyfuss/obama-petraeus-and-the-cu_b_628122.html
The Afghanistan Paradox: When the War’s Defenders Make the Case for Why We Should Stay, They End Up Making the Case for Why We Should Go
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/the-afghanistan-paradox-w_b_628581.html
vermont calling 72 – thanks! just a fluke, but maybe we have some favourable aspects like a mercury something or other… i think you write very well as it is and definitely don’t need me to help any! it is uncanny how we share a few ideas in common though, especially as we are just interacting over the inter-nut and not able to convey as much as would be possible in ‘real’ life, lulz… now my friend brian informs me lulz is a more interesting form to lol, so i am going to go with it.. as he gets older he becomes more boring and i find myself challenging him out of what i view as a possible movement towards mediocrity.. he has always been a bit of an oddity and the son of a close musical friend that i have known since he was around 10.. he is now in his early 30’s.. he had no interest in being involved in music, but has this artistic side to him that is hard to miss… anyway, enough about that..
i could post astro charts here, but i would have to share my irrelevant website if i was going to do it and after i did that the inflated sense of self i get would deflate like the guy in the wizard of oz who steps out from behind the scene… on second thought, this is a good reason for sharing it immediately, lulz! well, wait until i get it a bit more together and i will share it..letting go is harder to do then i let on earlier!
rc – looking forward to your views on ‘darkest just before the dawn’ quote from helena.. ordinarily i would just ram my thoughts out on this, but i am going to try for a bit more conciliatory-ness and wait til you say something first… t saturn is eventually going to teach me something when it hits my mercury, but i’m going to try to teach myself some new tricks in the meantime.. g’night!
James @67 and Vermont @69,
Since you’ve both contemplated these matters for quite sometime, then I would say that has to do with your individual birth charts. But, right now we’re under a Saturn Neptune transit that is global in scope and affects us collectively. I haven’t done a study of it, but it’d be interesting to see what books are being read, what films are being made, what music is being composed, and what the trends are in philosophy, theology, cosmology, science, etc. They’re going to reflect the nature and character of Saturn and Neptune, along with the other current planetary alignments. So, there are two determining factors: the individual chart, and the world transits.
Today’s chart
http://www.astrologysoftware.com/today/chart.asp?orig
from http://www.stariq.com
# Moon in Aquarius: All day
# Void of Course Moon: No
# PLUTO IS RETROGRADE
# NEPTUNE IS RETROGRADE
# CHIRON IS RETROGRADE
# MERCURY IS OUT OF BOUNDS
from http://www.stariq.com
Today’s dynamic Aquarius Moon forms stressful aspects with seven planets, pulling us between logical thoughts and irrational emotions. Paradoxically, the Water Bearer is an intellectual air sign yet the Moon symbolizes our feelings. Aquarius is futuristic while the Moon nostalgically clings to the past. Luckily, we can move beyond an indulgent Venus-Jupiter aspect by nurturing the wider community instead of selfishly seeking the pleasure of our senses.
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ADMIN….
I am listening/watching the Petraeus Confirmation hearings ! Umm, he is “smooth” ! The Sun/Mercury conjunction in Cancer must help? Amazing to me, how the Republicans hate the deadline of July 2011, for getting out of Afghanistan. They all must have a lot of money tied up in Military Stock and Etc. Why, do they not see how stupid this is ?? More lives,money and time
being wasted. Vietghanistan–is right!
My thoughts only–
After listening to many comments of Southern politicians, and call ins on c-span ! I wonder what “is wrong” with them”" The southern thinking has not changed–many small towns are the same as they were 50/100 yrs. ago ! No matter if they have TV or not ! Same old thoughts get handed down from generation/ to generation.
Many ideas never change— Even tho I was born in Tenn. and raised by “Southern parents” I would like to think, my perception of the world has changed? as I have moved to the North—? The religious teachings in the South is the “end all” philosophy. With some, it is all they have! Now, the “south” does ask, “what is wrong with me”? My answer if simple, “I avoid the area”… but, difficult to do when so many of our governing parties come from there ! Oh–!just my ponderings, this morning. !
The death of Senator Robert Byrd is an astrological reminder that so-called chart weakness can turn out to be strengths.
The Strength of Weakness: Astrological traditional holds that planets are strong in some signs and weak in others.
Robert Byrd, passed away on Monday, June 28.
It is what we do with the challenges and opportunities represented at the moment of birth that comes closest to portraying the process of self-discovery and actualization that is the measure of one’s life.
http://www.stariq.com/pagetemplate/article.asp?PageID=10258
Still too many old people/ideas in Afghanistan—
But the propaganda of 911, rules our lives now…
Petraeus’ First Big Problem
Washington has been abuzz with talk of housecleaning among the top
people in Kabul since Gen. McChrystal’s departure. Peter Galbraith on
what to watch for during Gen. David Petraeus’ hearing.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-06-29/petraeus-big-problems-before-confirmation-hearings/full/
This is trivia—but I find it amusing that NOW–they have made Kagan–”fluff her hair, put on make-up and wear jewelry”…! Susan Boyle changed her
appearance too !
Why Elena Kagan’s Looks Matter
When hearings for her Court nomination start tomorrow, senators won’t
be asking about her looks but everyone else already has. Professor
Deborah Rhode on the continuing bigotry of beauty in American society.
Why do Janet Napolitano, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan all look
like linebackers for the New York Jets?”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-06-26/elena-kagans-looks-and-why-they-matter/full/
I am BAD——————————–
But, Mrs Petraeus–is incredibly “plain”—————-
Mamie Eisenhower “bangs”————
Oh well, there is only room for one peacock in that family–I guess??
Rep. Dennis Kucinich
We Are Losing Our Nation to Lies About the Necessity of War
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-dennis-kucinich/we-are-losing-our-nation_b_628216.html
Donald Rumsfeld’s Nearly $50,000 Portrait Unveiled At Pentagon (VIDEO)
astounding price tag of nearly $50,000.
The portrait of Rumseld, which the former secretary reportedly paid
for himself, will hang in the Department of Defense…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/28/donald-rumsfelds-nearly-5_n_628480.html
Obama Administration Sided With Scott Brown On Wall Street Bill Loophole
Several Democratic Hill aides tell TPMDC that the Treasury Department,
which wielded tremendous influence over the shape of the legislation,
changed its position on the Volcker rule during the final
deliberations, endorsing an exemption that will allow banks to invest
in outside hedge funds.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/obama-administration-sided-with-brown-o.php?ref=fpb
Iran-Contra should never have been
“swept under the rug” ‘!
June 28, 2010
Former Iran-gate figure charged in new Somalia gun running case
Israeli, American indicted for gun running to Somalia
http://www.politico.com/blogs/laurarozen/
BP’s First “Spill”
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175267/tomgram%3A_stephen_kinzer%2C_bp%27s_first_%22spill%22/
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More Books—————————————
The American Way of War: How Bush’s Wars Became Obama’s [Paperback]
Tom Engelhardt (Author)
Reset: Iran, Turkey, and America’s Future by Stephen Kinzer
A thoroughly original history-cum-critique-cum-policy-review of
American folly in the Middle East, especially in relation to Iran, but
also Turkey, Israel, and Saudi Arabia — which Andrew Bacevich calls
“history with a bite,” and Juan Cole, “a must-read for anyone
concerned with the future of the United States in the Middle East.”
This is hardly worth paying attention to–anymore–!
They will continue to protect Banks and Corps !
POLITICO Breaking News:
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The House-Senate conference on Wall Street reform is considering going back into session Tuesday to deal with a controversial new $19 billion levy on banks. One possible plan is to try to win Massachusetts Republican Sen. Scott Brown’s vote by taking the funds from another source, Hill sources said.
For more information…http://www.politico.com
Panic and the Long Depression From: Marjorie. (29 Jun 2010 12:25):
Prior to the Wall Street Crash and the 1930s Depression there was a Great/Long Depression starting with the Panic of 1873. It sent the UK into a 20 year decline. The US recovered more quickly though it still suffered economic stagnation till 1879.
There are similarities between 1873, 1929 and now with all three having an approaching disruptive tr Uranus square tr Pluto. Tr Saturn heading for a bleak hard aspect to tr Pluto; and tr Saturn also heading for a hard economically de-stabilising aspect to tr Uranus in 1873 and 1929. We’re still in the middle of the tr Saturn opp tr Uranus; have got tr Saturn square tr Pluto through 10/11 and the tr Uranus square tr Pluto doesn’t get to exact till 2012 and hangs around till mid decade.
No great conclusions except that it obviously takes a combination of pressures to put the brakes on prosperity.
Interesting ? I think Biden’s being against the continuing presence in Afghanistan..will cause him problems..
Joe Biden – mis-speaks and rift with Obama From: Marjorie. (29 Jun 2010 11:56):
Vice President Joe Biden only seems to appear in the headlines when he puts his foot in it – or disagrees over Afghanistan.
If his birth time is accurate at 8.32am 20 Nov 1942 then he’s got Mercury in the 12th in Scorpio along with Mars Sun Venus so he will at time feel rather tucked out of sight. Though he’s also happier in a background role. He does have Mars square a 9th house opinionated Pluto which will boost up his tendency to snipe back. Plus he’s got the high tension Saturn Uranus in Gemini on his Descendant so will tend to act fairly erratically when meeting the public (or with close partners).
He is feeling a touch lack lustre this year with tr Neptune square his Sun Venus though with occasional rays of hope for positive change from tr Uranus trine Sun Venus till early 2011.
His relationship chart with Barack Obama is not inherently easy and is being beset by major difficulties now and ahead. There’s a composite Sun opposition Saturn which is workmanlike, good for business but hardly warm. Plus an argumentative Uranus square an undermining Mars Neptune – so it isn’t exactly a mutually supportive bond.
It’s been labouring from the start under a tr Pluto square Saturn and hitting the Sun/Saturn midpoint and then this year tr Pluto square the composite Sun. Tr Pluto tends to pull apart. Relations between them will cool considerably come Sept as tr Saturn is conjunct the composite Sun with tr Pluto maintaining the pressure on them through 2011. By 2012 tr Uranus is opposing the composite Sun which is definite separation time if it hasn’t happened before.
Only two VPs have ever gone before full term. The last was Spiro Agnew facing finance charges in 1973.
dbla 88 – good comments and thanks for the link to jeff jawers astro thoughts that i found thought provoking..
waiting for change to take place is boring.. far better to make the changes you envision.. the rest of the world will catch up to these changes and by broadcasting them more regularly it may happen more quickly.. if nothing else it will keep on in a state of being positive.. some might say we are living in a bubble of unreality, but i think different. those southerners are being exposed to the internet and other ways of viewing things are are more receptive to change then we may know.. shit, if things get really bad they will be forced to reconcile their experience with others( church leaders etc) views on what they are supposed to think like… frankly with the oil spill in the gulf it looks like armageddon, but it isn’t panning out exactly like some thought.. instead it is happening right in their backyard… people along the gulf can see this.. if they interpret it as the end of days, how does it fit with their specific location?
maybe this is the disconnect with saturn/neptune quincunx that helena is talking about too..with all the other major dynamics going on astrologically it is easy to overlook this one.. however it is generally a challenging energy – saturn/neptune – in any context and may be experienced in general as a downer… in spite of all the positive spin that corporations and politicians need to take on the present state of affairs, clearly we are reaching a breaking point of sorts here.. this time while special to us, may be very similar to others, but regardless it sure feels like a breaking point is happening here.. like the image of the frog in the pot where the water is slowly heating up – i think many people today are hip to this image and they see themselves as the frog… we need to consider how we are the ones controlling the knobs on the oven, instead of seeing ourselves as the dinner being served..
byrd had jupiter in gemini, but it is in the solar 8th house to his sun which is always favourable from the pov of benefiting off others monetarily.. he would scratch some friends back and they would scratch back too and a nice chain of profiting off the friendships would unfold.. am i just making this up, or is this something like what byrd was about? i am getting this off the solar 8th jupiter in gemini to his scorpio sun.. scorpio sun is a similar dynamic – benefiting off the deep bonds made with others.. wasn’t he attached strongly to the military with this group quite supportive of him in general and at election time? just ruminating.. off to get some work done and back tomorrow..
looked at kagans chart – april 28 1960 new york – no time… without a time it is impossible to predict anything! her and obama has a neptune conj neptune. did he pick her? her chart is a lot of earth – grand trine, with a kite formation to this same neptune.. self deception is always very real with sun/neptune contacts even if in the signs taurus/scorpio..
POLITICO Breaking News:
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After a meeting on climate change legislation with nearly two dozen senators of both parties, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said President Barack Obama insisted on putting a price on carbon in the bill. Kerry also said he is ready to “scale back” the legislation to gain Republican support.
read a book a friend lent me yesterday – a quick really – called ‘ignore everybody’and 39 other ways to think creatively, or something like that, by hugh macleod… it was really fun and i think you can read it online if you want.
http://gapingvoid.com/2004/01/11/bio/
“NOW-” – married to a defense contractor! ( Lara Logan )
“Thank God” for Matt Taibbi… he is so right, again…
“” By Matt Taibbi “”
Lara Logan, You Suck
Lara Logan, come on down! You’re the next guest on Hysterical Backstabbing Jealous Hackfest 2010!
And true, most of the major TV outlets are completely in the bag for the Pentagon, with two of them (NBC/GE and Logan’s own CBS, until recently owned by Westinghouse, one of the world’s largest nuclear weapons manufacturers) having operated for years as leaders in both the broadcast media and weapons-making businesses.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/matt-taibbi/blogs/TaibbiData_May2010/122137/83512
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General McChrystal Couldn’t Fake it Anymore
“This was not the war that the commanding General had in mind, this was not his ambition, this was not the challenge he aspired for and this was certainly not what he was trained for”
Protecting a narco-state controlled by traffickers and warlords, supporting a deeply rooted corrupt karazi government, liberating veiled and oppressed women, caught up in friendly fire and yeiding to misguided and pre staged policy are hardly the satisfactory job descriptions of a top commander of war.
This was not the war that the commanding General had in mind, this was not his ambition, this was not the challenge he aspired for and this was certainly not what he was trained for.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/28/general-macchrystal-couldnt-fake-it-anymore/
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Choose the Winner: Israel or the Majors (Oil Companies)
Israel has “found” at least 23 Trillion cubic feet of Natural Gas in the Mediterranean, a good portion of which “belongs” to Gaza and Lebanon.
Israel says, in effect, “Screw that.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/28/chose-the-winner-israel-or-the-majors-oil-companies/
I think we all know this ?———————–
Facing the dawn through your ascendant
The ascendant of the birthchart is the cusp of the first house which describes our personality.
Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/2010/06/facing-the-dawn-through-your-a.html#ixzz0sGtXuK1O
Gen. Petraeus’ Link to High-Profile Suicide in Iraq
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/petraeus-linked-to-high-p_b_627647.html
In Refusing to Hear My Case, The Supreme Court Has Put the World’s Peace and Order in Danger
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maher-arar/the-supreme-court-can-ign_b_628358.html?ir=Daily%20Brief
USA Chart
“Pluto transits to the angles are very telling in mundane astrology. Pluto on the AC for the WTC bombing, plus Saturn on DC convinced a lot of astrologers about the accuracy of this chart.”
This quote is from a poster at the website James linked to. I expected there to be a barrage of data to wade through, which to my simple mind, is not a help but a hindrance. There was very little discussion about the favored chart and how it reflected the national character. In fact, one poster dismissed this as irrelevant.
I am surprised by this revelation, that apparently so many astrologers were convinced by the placements within the Sibley chart of the Saturn Pluto opposition on 911.
Pluto in Sagittarius and the 7th house fits the profile of foreign terrorists who attacked us. Saturn and the first house indicates a vulnerability to that attack.
Sun in Cancer in the 2nd house fits the importance that the country places on money and possessions, and the yardstick we use to judge the worth of people. I think the Uranus and Mars straddling the first house cusp indicates the dynamism and our can do spirit, our scientific and technological inventiveness, our love of liberty and independence, and also our unilateralism. But on the other hand, our history has shown that we’ve gone from an isolationalist nation to one that has engaged in countless military interventions around the world. I realize this is a point that applies equally to a 7th house Mars. Gemini rising, this is the country that invented the personal computer, the cell phone, and 24 hour cable news, I think as well. We talk so much, even with our clothes. We multi-task, which is the opposite of the one-pointedness of Sagittarius. We seem to lack a curiosity and interest in other nations and cultures, which is strange for a country that is deemed to have Sagittarius rising.
Pluto in the 8th to my mind reflects accurately the covert sabotage and power and control we exert over nations through the IMF and the World Bank. An economic way of waging war in the interests of U.S. hegemony and empire.
Douglas Baker, who is an esoteric astrologer, has said something interesting that the U.S. and Great Britain share an ascendant that is only two degrees apart, and which alludes to a deep connection between the two countries.
James, thanks for the link.
I do not have enough info on this but, What does this judge have to do with our Supreme Court?
Who Is Judge Aharon Barak?
“Most Americans have never heard of Aharon Barak,” she wrote. “If they
tune in to Elena Kagan’s Supreme Court confirmation hearings, they
will.”
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/06/28/128168228/who-is-judge-aharon-barak
Aharon Barak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aharon_Barak
Kagan attacked for idolizing judge Barak
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=179841
Helena,
I appreciate the comments–all the sharing of information is fantastic…I am surprised too-
“”so many astrologers were convinced by the placements within the Sibley chart of the Saturn Pluto opposition on 911.”"
Although, the Sag Rising has been used by most and for years, The Gemini ACD, fits so much better.. I am surprised, more credit is not given to that chart …I am forever flipping the chart around mentally ! American’s truly pay no attention to foreign countries, except for “food”.. ( our Cancer Sun )?
I think I picked up this up from the Noel Tyl discussion. It is complicated for me !
The Riddle of the Sibly Chart for American Independence:
Masonic Astrology and the Fixed Square of the Zodiac
http://edkohout.com/mundane/sibly-1.html
–To this day we still have the problem of affixing the proper angles to this most important chart. Without proper angles, much delineation and prognostication may be for naught, or limited at best. Rectification, as a rule, should be employed when all other attempts to garner historical proof have failed us———–
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OK, with Judge Aharon Barak, “I should keep an open International Mind !” and not be an isolationist …
james,
Waiting for change is boring! Sen Byrd, did bring W. Va. all kinds of perks, really thank goodness for that.I did love how he was able to change, personally.. W. Va. is still such a poor state/ and ” for years”" remains a poor state ! It is amazing ! But my annoyance–for years–is their educational system.. From what I read, it remains uneducated and poor? Why? I spent a month there, in the late 60’s…
I give up with Elena Kagan’s chart. I believe you are right and it is Neptune playing a big roll.. I thought she would be first instead of Sonia, but politically, we needed a Hispanic first. I do not like Elena, because of her ties to Larry Sommers, and her ties with the Corporate establishment… She will be confirmed…
Thanks, james, you present great thoughts, to ponder…
“”Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut independent, said that after Mr.
Obama agreed in December to send more troops to Afghanistan, some of
his people still balked.
“I’m afraid that there may be some in the administration who never
fully accepted that decision by the president and have continued,
through leaks and other means, to suggest a different policy,” Mr.
Lieberman said.”"”
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Just wondering—-Is this enough reason to get another Vice President
? ( and Ambassador Eikenberry ?)
Certainly, our SOS agrees with Gates and the Military !
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War plan relations soured early on
‘Flaws’ cited in Afghan effort
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/27/war-plan-relations-soured-early-on/
Hezbollah not interested in dialogue with US until it changes its
‘pro-Israel’ Mideast policy
Israel and Hezbollah have exchanged threats in recent months and many
in Lebanon feared a new round of fighting. The summer 2006 war, which
left some 1,200 Lebanese and 160 Israelis dead, ended in a stalemate.
http://wire.antiwar.com/2010/06/28/hezbollah-not-interested-in-dialogue-with-us/
Hi James , Well said at 85.
How about a little fun when you have the time, the theme of BP..
first complete a chart on wiiliam knox darcy , he is the founding father of british petrol.
his chart when applied to our current planets should reveal some very interesting light”"
on bps future, as well as the sea that reddens.
lastly, bearing in mind that bp is a living entity bound “” to its founders chart..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Knox_D‘Arcy
hi James ,,,
let me try the link again, for the chart info… oh my
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Knox_D‘Arcy
james,,darn,, oct 11 1849, newton abbott england, born william knox d’arcy…
i have no time of birth ,, but close enough for our purpose…
sorry for the the windy post,, rc
Supreme Court Vacates Don Siegelman Conviction
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/06/29/supreme-court-vacates-don-siegelman-conviction/
…still, he has not attained justice.
rc———-
All———–
Right or wrong some Info on BP Future–
Oh!–it is dismal–We are at a breaking point !
Astrological view of BP, the Gulf and the US economy
Since the lunar eclipse on June 26th we note that on June 28th Mercury
came to superior conjunction with the Sun conjunct the fixed star
Alhena, and that Comet McNaught (C2009R1) is coming to perihelion on
July 2nd. Mercury at superior conjunction the Sun with the fixed star
Alhena is conjunct the USA natal Jupiter. Alhena means the Achille’s
heal. This points directly at the USA’s Achille’s heal which has to do
with foreign involvements in relation to our money.
Next March into April will be an extremely difficult and important
time for both the US economy and for BP. Transiting Saturn opposite
transiting Jupiter at the end of March 2011 will cause the market to
plummet. It marks a period of correction.
http://www.examiner.com/x-34155-Albuquerque-Metaphysical-Examiner~y2010m6d29-Astrological-view-of-BP-the-Gulf-and-the-US-economy?cid=examiner-email
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Turkey Forbids Israeli Military Overflights
http://www.juancole.com/2010/06/turkey-forbids-israeli-military-overflights.html
Hi Helena,, This Man Erdogan has The Birth Path 11..
I suspect has the Mental Capacity to Keep several Steps Ahead of Netayahu
Good Post and Surprising to see another 11 beside Mr and Mrs Obama touting about in
world Politics…
http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/Wa25SCdd9VFd.htm
Hi Helena,, Look at the Eyes of Our Pician friend.. watery ,wet. yet hard to avoid …
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recep_Tayyip_Erdoğan
very bold hand signaiture ,,, this guy is the real deal , so i feel !!
Afghanistan, Iran, and Petraeus’ Real Challenge
http://www.raceforiran.com/afghanistan-iran-and-petraeus%e2%80%99-real-challenge
Helena,
Thanks for the Siegelman update. This whole case is
amazing. I looked up more info, and this site has links for back history. It has gone on so long, it is difficult to remember all the circumstances. Plus they were weird in the first place ! But, one thing that is outstanding, is that Karl Rove was behind all of this. He is still in control of many Republican
activities. Why isn’t he the one in jail? lol-
Updated: Supreme Court vacates Siegelman decision
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0629/supreme-court-vacates-don-siegelman/
Hi rc @119, 120
That is an extraordinary number is it not? I am impressed with Erdogan since the Gaza flotilla…seems to be one of the good guys, like Lula de Silva.
rc,
Thank you for Erdogan’s chart. I missed it, but I can google in to look for something and get so=-side-tracked as to my original mission…Uranus in Gemini, I thinK?
Besides both being #11–look at their Chiron connections?
Looks like they need to heal each other ? I am impressed with Erdogan too..
Recep Tayyip ERDOGAN——Chiron 25°36′ Capricorn
Born: February 26, 1954, 12:00 PM (unknown)
in: Istanbul (Turquie)
Sun: 7°16′ Pisces
Moon: 12°13′ Sagittarius
Numerology: Birthpath 11
Chiron 25°36′ Capricorn
Barack Obama–astro chart—
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-news/barack-obama-natal-chart.php
Saturn Capricorn–25 degree 19 min…
Obama’s Chiron– 5 Pis–19 Rx (in 1st house of Self)
This is on PBS now–
Maybe you have seen it/maybe not ? Just Reference—-
Before and on 911—Michael Hayden was in Charge—-!!!
NOVA
The Spy Factory
http://video.pbs.org/video/1051968443/
None of the Info was checked /investigated by the 911 Commission
Seriously, watch the PBS video–it is about 10 minutes–The Afgahn soldiers are “cute”–! really a 3 Stooges group–but it is not their fault! But we cannot pay zillion of dollars for “cute”?
More Fallout from McChrystal Failures in Afghanistan: Training Myth Exposed
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/57481
-Afghan Troop Training Challenges Examined by Documentary Filmmaker -
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military/jan-june10/afghan_06-29.html
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Let’s try an new month–and new info ????
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